I have been training people on a type of 3d printer for electronics and i have mostly what i call young people. which are people who are younger than me.
I have been training people on a type of 3d printer for electronics and i have mostly what i call young people. which are people who are younger than
me.
Can you give a rough age range / estimate because this is just.. something else... wondering if it could be a generational thing?
I have been training people on a type of 3d printer for electronics an have mostly what i call young people. which are people who are younge than
me.
Can you give a rough age range / estimate because this is just.. somethi else... wondering if it could be a generational thing?
I wonder about that also. Kids of a certain age and below have grown up in a world of mobile phones, tablets, etc., and I very much suspect that the ones that have been allowed to interact with these objects without,
or with little, restriction have broken attention spans.
Those of us who are old enough that we grew up in houses without such things really notice the difference.
I wonder about that also. Kids of a certain age and below have grown up in
a world of mobile phones, tablets, etc., and I very much suspect that the >ones that have been allowed to interact with these objects without, or with >little, restriction have broken attention spans.
Those of us who are old enough that we grew up in houses without such
things really notice the difference.
then again we had video games and tons of junk TV and movies
(including subliminal messaging! ever want a dr pepper after watching spiderman with tobey maguire? lol) and somehow we managed to put a
line between that and education.
Re: Re: people with autism
By: fusion to MIKE POWELL on Sat May 02 2026 02:25 pm
The real weird one is 19. the guy what took off for 45+ mins is
around 35. The kid's mom is real smart, but he isn't really at all like that. my lead actually apologized because he thought he'd only be with me a few hours.
Basically in the workforce i see 18-25-30 years old that do outragious
things even when making decent pay.
Being high at work. walking off. taking 2 half hour lunches back to back. I'm also near minnesota so there's cultural and other problems/issues because there's hmong and somali. I don't know. is it cultural or what when you hide someplace at work to talk with your friends for half the night? Or don't come back from the breakroom so your supervisors have to come get 30 people. I usually have a regular job and then a pt job to help pay off my credit cars so I've seen a lot of weird shit.
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All of those people were born at/after the internet was
released. For years, I've noticed a fundamental difference
between pre and post internet people.
yeah we had hypnotic video games that we were glued to all day and night. yes i went outside sometimes to play basketball and other stuff.
All of those people were born at/after the internet was released. For
years, I've noticed a fundamental difference between pre and post internet
people.
i think almost all of us were born after the internet was released.
All of those people were born at/after the internet was
released. For years, I've noticed a fundamental difference
between pre and post internet people.
i think almost all of us were born after the internet was released.
fusion wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
I wonder about that also. Kids of a certain age and below have grown up in a world of mobile phones, tablets, etc., and I very much suspect that the ones that have been allowed to interact with these objects without,
or with little, restriction have broken attention spans.
there is research coming out that any education involving computers, tablets, etc. is reducing student outcome. i don't know if it's just people's brains being wired to think "this knowledge is always
available on the internet i don't need it now (or may never)" vs "this
is knowledge i have in my own head, i might need it someday" or what..
Those of us who are old enough that we grew up in houses without such things really notice the difference.
then again we had video games and tons of junk TV and movies (including subliminal messaging! ever want a dr pepper after watching spiderman
with tobey maguire? lol) and somehow we managed to put a line between
that and education.
MRO wrote to mike powell <=-
Being high at work. walking off. taking 2 half hour lunches back to back. I'm also near minnesota so there's cultural and other problems/issues because there's hmong and somali. I don't know. is it cultural or what when you hide someplace at work to talk with your
friends for half the night? Or don't come back from the breakroom so
your supervisors have to come get 30 people. I usually have a regular
job and then a pt job to help pay off my credit cars so I've seen a lot
of weird shit.
Oh? I think what he meant was when the internet became mainstream. I hadn't even heard of the internet before 1995.
Nightfox
All of those people were born at/after the internet was
released. For years, I've noticed a fundamental difference between
pre and post internet people.
i think almost all of us were born after the internet was released.
After it was created, maybe. It didn't move from being for
universities and the government to being a thing for the general
public until I was in my mid-20's and out of college.
* SLMR 2.1a * Psychoceramics: The study of crackpots.
seen a lot of weird shit.
Yeah, back when I was that age, doing things like that was a good
way to get fired.
All of those people were born at/after the internet was
released. For years, I've noticed a fundamental difference between pre and post internet people.
i think almost all of us were born after the internet was released.
After it was created, maybe. It didn't move from being for
universities and the government to being a thing for the general
public until I was in my mid-20's and out of college.
i think the guy was confusing the web with the internet.
Some schools are moving away from "screen time" learning and back towards more traditional classrooms as a result. I think that is a good thing. ;)
Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
Oh? I think what he meant was when the internet became mainstream. I hadn't even heard of the internet before 1995.
Mike Powell wrote to fusion <=-
Some schools are moving away from "screen time" learning and back
towards more traditional classrooms as a result. I think that is a
good thing. ;)
Those of us who are old enough that we grew up in houses without such things really notice the difference.
then again we had video games and tons of junk TV and movies (including subliminal messaging! ever want a dr pepper after watching spiderman
with tobey maguire? lol) and somehow we managed to put a line between
that and education.
IIRC, the Tobey Maguire Spiderman came out when I was around 30. :D
Some kids I knew had video game equipment at home, but most of us
didn't. TV does come with some gotchas but it does require you to pay attention so you don't miss something... especially back in the day
when most of us couldn't record it and there was no streaming. ;)
On the internet, it has got to where sites like Youtube prioritize
short content (< 2 minutes) over longer form videos. A lot of creators
of long form content have been complaining about that because they are loosing views and money to the short form content. Best as I can tell, everything on sites like Instagram and Tik Tok are aimed at short attention spans.
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now in the hurt feelings age managers are afraid to crack down on
people unless it's a small place. at amazon if the managers get
reported to hr they take a 2+ week unpaid school for sensativity
training. so they ignore poor workers for the most part. that is
changing now because it was really not working out.
Around '92 for me. That's about when all the BBS's started dying off or offering internet service if I remember correctly.1998 is when bbsing largely died in my area code.
universities and the government to being a thing for the general
public until I was in my mid-20's and out of college.
i think the guy was confusing the web with the internet.
Yes, most of us were born before "the web" was created. ;)
I've always loved pen and paper - still use notebooks at work for
taking notes during meetings. Back then, I loved buying school
supplies in September - especially the little geometry kits with
pencils, protractors, stencils, and a little ruler.
There was a story on NPR a couple of years ago about New York City
teachers who'd been written up for incompetence, insubordination
or poor performance. They weren't allowed to teach, but received
full pay and support from the teacher's union. They were sent to
"temporary re-assignment centers", commonly known as Rubber Rooms,
to await the next steps. Some people had been there for years,
showing up and sitting in a room to do nothing for the day.
Around '92 for me. That's about when all the BBS's started dying off or1998 is when bbsing largely died in my area code.
offering internet service if I remember correctly.
Here in Utah, we have the "Bell to Bell" ban on cellphone usage.
Re: Re: people with autism
By: MRO to Raymar on Mon May 04 2026 12:51 am
All of those people were born at/after the internet was released. For
years, I've noticed a fundamental difference between pre and post intern
people.
i think almost all of us were born after the internet was released.
Oh? I think what he meant was when the internet became mainstream. I hadn' even heard of the internet before 1995.
Nightfox
Re: Re: people with autism
By: Mike Powell to fusion on Sun May 03 2026 02:47 pm
Some schools are moving away from "screen time" learning and back towards more traditional classrooms as a result. I think that is a good thing. ;)
Here in Utah, we have the "Bell to Bell" ban on cellphone usage.
Some schools are moving away from "screen time" learning and back towards more traditional classrooms as a result. I think that is a
good thing. ;)
I was trying to tutor my sophomore daughter on geometry -- drawing a
figure on paper and measuring angles was so much easier than what she
was trying to do on a screen.
I've always loved pen and paper - still use notebooks at work for taking notes during meetings. Back then, I loved buying school supplies in
September - especially the little geometry kits with pencils,
protractors, stencils, and a little ruler.
Yes, most of us were born before "the web" was created. ;)
well we are considered old. but the web is just a layer of the internet. it's not the entirety of what the internet is and what it does.
now in the hurt feelings age managers are afraid to crack down on
people unless it's a small place. at amazon if the managers get
reported to hr they take a 2+ week unpaid school for sensativity training. so they ignore poor workers for the most part. that is changing now because it was really not working out.
There was a story on NPR a couple of years ago about New York City
teachers who'd been written up for incompetence, insubordination or
poor performance. They weren't allowed to teach, but received full pay
and support from the teacher's union. They were sent to "temporary
re-assignment centers", commonly known as Rubber Rooms, to await the
next steps. Some people had been there for years, showing up and
sitting in a room to do nothing for the day.
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before the web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps surplanted the websites.
I'm a millennial/xennial, but by the time I had heard of the internet (1995 the web already existed. To me, "internet before the web" suggests BBSes a
well we are considered old. but the web is just a layer of the internet.
it's not the entirety of what the internet is and what it does.
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before the web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps surplanted the websites.
The impact of a total internet collapse would be immediate, far-reaching, and increasingly severe as the hours turned into weeks. Modern society is built on a foundation of "always-on" connectivity, and removing it would trigger a domino effect across almost every sector of human life.Phase 1: The Initial Shock (0-24 Hours)
Denn wrote to Mike Powell <=-
Some schools are moving away from "screen time" learning and back towards more traditional classrooms as a result. I think that is a good thing. ;)
Here in Utah, we have the "Bell to Bell" ban on cellphone usage.
phigan wrote to Denn <=-
In Soviet Russia, cellphone ban YOU!
Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before
the web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps
surplanted the websites.
Nightfox wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I'm a millennial/xennial, but by the time I had heard of the internet (1995), the web already existed. To me, "internet before the web" suggests BBSes and services like Prodigy, AOL, etc., which technically weren't the internet (and services like AOL & such initially weren't connected to the internet, from what I recall).
phigan wrote to Nightfox <=-
There was also a lot of .planning and fingering going on.
Re: Re: people with autism
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed May 06 2026 10:03 am
well we are considered old. but the web is just a layer of the internet.
it's not the entirety of what the internet is and what it does.
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before the
web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps surplanted the
websites.
I was curious about "What would happen if Internet went down", So I asked AI.
The impact of a total internet collapse would be immediate, far-reaching,Phase 1: The Initial Shock (0-24 Hours)
and increasingly severe as the hours turned into weeks. Modern society is
built on a foundation of "always-on" connectivity, and removing it would
trigger a domino effect across almost every sector of human life.
The first 24 hours would be defined by confusion and the immediate failure of digital services.
Communication Blackout: Instant messaging, email, and VoIP services (like WhatsApp or Zoom) would cease to function. Standard cellular calls might still work briefly, but networks would likely collapse under the massive surge of people trying to call loved ones simultaneously.
Financial Paralysis: Credit cards and digital payment apps (Apple Pay, Venmo) rely on internet handshakes to authorize transactions. ATMs would stop dispensing cash, and the stock market would essentially freeze, unable to process high-frequency trades.
Logistics Failures: Modern "Just-in-Time" supply chains would stall. Delivery trucks, ships, and planes rely on GPS and internet-based routing systems to know where to go and what to carry.
Phase 2: The Gridlock (2-7 days)
As the outage persists, the physical world begins to feel the strain of the digital absence.
Supply Chain Collapse: Grocery stores typically hold only a few days' worth of inventory. Without the automated ordering systems that restock shelves, food shortages would begin to appear.
Critical Infrastructure Risks: While power plants and water treatment facilities have localized controls, many rely on remote monitoring and data synchronization. Prolonged outages could lead to localized power grid instabilities or water distribution issues.
Economic Impact: The global economy would lose billions of dollars per day. Businesses that operate entirely in the cloud would cease to exist for the duration of the outage.
Phase 3: Long-term Restructuring (Weeks to Months) If the internet remained down for a month or more, society would be forced to revert to mid-20th-century systems.
Paper-Based Systems: Government and healthcare sectors would have to pivot entirely to physical record-keeping. The lack of access to digital medical histories could lead to significant healthcare crises.
Urban Exodus: Life in highly dense urban areas which are most dependent on complex supply chains -would become difficult. People might begin moving toward rural areas where resources like food and water are more accessible locally. The Rise of Analog Alternatives: Shortwave radio (HAM radio), physical mail, and landline telephony would become the primary modes of long-distance communication.
-Now that is a scary scenario.
Denn
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before the
web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps surplanted the
websites.
I'm a millennial/xennial, but by the time I had heard of the internet (1995),
the web already existed. To me, "internet before the web" suggests BBSes and
services like Prodigy, AOL, etc., which technically weren't the internet (and
services like AOL & such initially weren't connected to the internet, from what
I recall).
Gopher was the thing before the webs, and it was still around in 95 kinda. That
and archie/veronica and ftp sites like funet.fi and wustl.edu. There was also a
lot of .planning and fingering going on.
I'm a millennial/xennial, but by the time I had heard of the internet(1995),
the web already existed. To me, "internet before the web" suggests BBSesand
services like Prodigy, AOL, etc., which technically weren't the internet
The "internet before the web" was email, LISTSERV, usenet, gopher, trickle, ftp, telnet, talk, and other (almost entirely) text based sites/protocols/utilities used by the universities and government sites that were using it before it became a commercial venture.
The Rise of Analog Alternatives: Shortwave radio (HAM radio), physical mail, and landline telephony would become the primary modes of long-distance communication.
-Now that is a scary scenario.
Correct but, for most young people who don't remember internet before the web, that is mostly all it is... well, that is until apps surplanted the websites.
How do we reclaim that wide-eyed wonder we had at telnetting into a
system a half a world away, or receiving an email in realtime for the
first time? Or finding Usenet news and people discussing everything?
How do we reclaim that wide-eyed wonder we had at telnetting into a
system a half a world away, or receiving an email in realtime for the
first time? Or finding Usenet news and people discussing everything?
I think that is sort of like asking "how does one become a virgin again"? Aside from some amnesia event, it really isn't possible.
Or finding Usenet news and people discussing everything?
Gopher was the thing before the webs, and it was still around in 95 kinda. That and archie/veronica and ftp sites like funet.fi and wustl.edu. There wasI would love to see a gopher door for bbses.
also a lot of .planning and fingering going on.
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